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Post by Spencer Bledsoe on Apr 7, 2015 9:20:38 GMT
I'd like to start by congratulating Adam and Silas to making it to the FTC. You guys definitely both deserved it.
before I go into my questions, I just want to say that I didn't mean anything I said in the game personally to anyone when it came to cockiness and ignorance. I was only trying to play a character in this game, so if I came across the way I did and really hurt someone I apologize.
now, I'm actually completely undecided who I'm going to vote for because you both got here with different although very effective strategies. So whoever can answer all the questions every juror has given you best will get my vote
the only thing I want from you guys and it's asked in every final tribal, compare each Juror and both finalists to a Survivor player and explain why. However, I want you guys to give each person 2 different survivors. The first will be the comparison of prejury (how they played premerge) and the second the comparison in the jury phase (post merge to when they were voted out)
also one more thing, I realize this is really weird, BUT whoever compares me to kass or russell post merge will lose my vote ty
and one more thing. you both knew very well you would beat me if I made it further. so why choose 7 to take me out?
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Post by Adam Gentry on Apr 7, 2015 20:23:18 GMT
To address the part about you beating me. You made it clear that I had no shot at winning, and yes I did think you had no shot after you flipped on your alliance, but then I started thinking only person really pissed at you was Crystal, so I do think you could have beat me in the end. Everyone assumed I wasn't doing anything, which it was part of my strategy, was untrue, but they wouldn't have believed me over you.
Chelsea Meissner PreJury: Alexis Jones because she was this cute girl, that didn't really pose a threat to people. She was in a majority alliance like Alexis, and controlled the game. Alexis played the game very quietly, as did Chelsea. She laid low a bit, and tried to form friendships with people just like Chelsea. Jury: I would say Eliza Orlins because honestly Chelsea's mouth got her in trouble, just like Eliza's mouth did. Now Chelsea didn't try to play a fake idol lol, but people really didn't trust her because she was sort of shady to them, just like Eliza was. And Eliza spoke without thinking, Whereas Chelsea didn't do that, she did say some stuff to Marcus which led to his demise.
Cirie Fields PreJury: As cheesy as it sounds, Cirie Fields. She played her character well before the merge. She was hilarious, and fun to be around just like Cirie. She was always cracking jokes in the public chat, and was in the majority like Cirie has been numerous seasons. No idea if that was her plan, but that's what it seemed like to me. Jury: Candice Woodcock, more specifically in Heroes VS Villains. They both ended up turning on their tribe and alliance, which led to their demise. They both were in pretty good spots too, prior to flipping.
Erinn Lobdell PreJury: Amanda Kimmel because you were popular among the people, and a beast in challenges. I remember looking back when we got put on tribes, and I literally told Crystal thank god we got Erinn cause she will win these challenges LOL. I know for a fact people cheered when they got Amanda on their tribe, cause she was a bad bitch in competitions. You also had alliances going, just like Amanda that could have carried you through the game. Jury: Peih-Gee Law becuase you were super smart like her, and people were scared of you. You still had some alliances, but people knew about them, and they didn't want to give you an opportunity in the game. You could have won the game just like her, based purely on the fact you knew what you were doing, and had a plan in the back of your mind to take everyone out, just like she did.
Marcus Lehman
PreJury: Chris Daughtry because you were set to be eliminated before we got put on tribes, but the vote switched to either Tyler or Josh, I forget which went first and both were too similar for me, sorryimnotsorry. But then like him, you fought your way back into the game for tribal phase. Jury: Lex Van Den Berghe because you were a really smart guy, like Lex. Unfortunately for you, people knew that and it made you a target. And I'm mostly talking about his all star season. But you made a deal with me, which was similar to making a deal with Boston Rob, and it burned you in the end.
Spencer Bledsoe
PreJury: Marcus Lehman, go figure eh? Well I gave you Marcus because premerge, he had a strong alliance that would have got him to the end, just like you did. Now this isn't including that tribe swap that fucked him over. But just imagine if there wasn't a third tribe swap, Marcus had the game in the bag. You had such a strong alliance, and people genuinely like you, so that's why you get him. If you stuck with that alliance, you could have made it super far, but circumstances fucked over both of you. Jury: John Cochran on South Pacific, because you flipped on your old tribe and basically were personally attacked for it. LOL That sounds so cheesy but it's true. There are differences between you guys such as that he outlasted his old tribe, but mostly after you flipped, you were basically considered the devil, which is the main reason you got it. You guys were also both really smart, and he ended up going on to win a different season so yeah.
Crystal Cox
PreJury: I would compare you to Boston Rob, because honey, you basically controlled the first half of this game. No one fucked with you or even attempted to. You had an alliance to protect you, and anyone who stood in your way was gone. You were definitely a villain early on as well, just like he was. Jury: Parvati from Cook Island, because you did maintain a majority premerge, after merge you were flipped on. But you did maintain your fierceness so who is the joke really on? You had a lot going for you, and you would do whatever it took to win, which unfortunately didn't work out for you this time.
Sierra Dawn Thomas
PreJury: Stephanie Lagrossa because honey, early on you were a challenge threat. And you maintained great alliances just like she did. I was so scared of you in challenges after that first challenge where you posted so much, I knew that when the time came, it would be hard to get you out. Jury: Shambo Waters because you turned on your old tribe for the better, you made final 5. You knew when to flip, and it worked out for you. You knew you were on the bottom of your old tribe, and you capitalized on it, and I love it lol.
Dolly Neely
PreJury: Sugar Kiper because early on, just like her you had people protecting you. And I haven't seen your confessionals, but from what I hear they are just as funny as hers. But you guys both had a solid game early on, and both made moves when necessary, even if it meant your alliance member had to go. Jury: Terry Deitz, because honey all your alliance was getting taken out, and you won like every immunity like he did. Where as you both had very strong social games, you both knew if you didn't win that next immunity, your ass was gone.
Jaclyn Schultz
PreJury: Purple Kelly because you both didn't cause any disturbance early on, and played it really safe which worked out well for you. Jury: Natalie Tenerelli because you worked very close with me, and we took out a lot of people together. And you are both cute as hell so why not.
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Post by Silas Gaither on Apr 8, 2015 0:45:19 GMT
Hey Spencer! Also hey everybody. I'll give Adam credit for being the speediest answerer like ever. I'm super busy irl but I'm really trying to get to all of your questions! Hope you all understand.
To answer your question, I don't regret that move at all. I actually pushed for it really hard. I knew I could most likely beat you at f2 but I knew that having you around was bad news for me, since I felt the least close to you out of everyone remaining in the game (aside Crystal, since you two had beef). The double vote played a part, or rather made it easier for me to get others on board, but really, you weren't in my endgame and I needed you out to get the people I trusted as far as possible. You'd have made a great goat, but I knew you wouldn't have let me be your goat.
I'm gonna answer all comparison questions at the same time so I can have a straight mindset for it. I'll do yours, CCs and Erinn's at the same time and as soon as possible.
Thanks Spencer!
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Post by Adam Gentry on Apr 8, 2015 0:47:11 GMT
Silas GaitherI can only think of one other activity you're slower at than responding to questions.
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Post by Silas Gaither on Apr 8, 2015 1:01:40 GMT
Midterms: the only thing that's a bigger bitch than Adam
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Post by Adam Gentry on Apr 8, 2015 16:23:16 GMT
I forgot to compare Silas to someone, I will do that after class.
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Post by Spencer Bledsoe on Apr 8, 2015 17:20:04 GMT
also compare yourselves finalists
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Post by Adam Gentry on Apr 9, 2015 3:51:31 GMT
PreJury: Now this is going off of the four rounds we were actually together and not on separate tribes. But I would compare him to Katie Gallagher, because she is one of my favorite survivors, but she had a good social game going. She had a good alliance with Tom, wasn't really in danger of going home, yeah she annoyed some people, Silas annoyed people too with his cocky attitude, and trying to be a douche. And to throw in, they both weren't that good at competitions haha. All in all both played good games to make it to merge/finals. Jury: Natalie Tenerelli, not from the aspect of her being a complete sheep cause it wasn't completely like that. But just like Natalie, Silas was never in any real danger so he didn't have to do a lot, similar to Natalie who had Rob to help her. Natalie had a great social game with Rob, just like Silas did with me. I wasn't going to fuck over Silas until final 3 . Rob was never going to fuck over her. Natalie was also in on every vote that happened, very similar to Silas. Rob got rid of her best friend, just like I had to get rid of Silas's best friend Marcus. All in all, they both played the game and never had to fight for their safety in the game, and ended up making finals.
PreJury: Cirie Fields. I was definately no competition threat to say the least. So I tried to lay low in her early game, similar to how she did. Using humor to get into people's heart and get people to like me, even though mine probably didn't work as well as hers did, but I attempted to, so that's why I compared my game to hers. Jury: Lisa Whelchel, she was the driving force behind her alliance. She tried and succeeded in blindsides such as people on Malcolm, she would have ended up winning but Skupin didn't listen to logic. I myself was the driving force behind my alliance. Like her, I had a ton of blood on my hands, so I had to fight for safety every round like she did. Lisa was in it to win it, just like myself. She may not have been the most popular like me, but she played the game in an attempt to win, like I did.
Sorry probably sucks
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Post by Silas Gaither on Apr 9, 2015 5:41:38 GMT
OK HERE WE GO
Chelsea Meissner Pre-Jury: Kelly Remington. Kelly from this season played a very clean pre-merge. She was friendly with everyone and was never in danger at any point. Only once the merge hit did stuff get messy for her. Jury:Jeff Kent. You were an early juror who went home on a messy vote. Could've been a bunch of other people but your threat-status kinda pushed it onto you. Ultimately, you got unlucky, though.
Cirie Fields Pre-Jury: Ethan Zohn (Africa) Cause you were just never in danger. Didn't matter what happened. You were destined to make the merge. Jury: Corinne Kaplan (Caramoan). I mean you flipped and it backfired on you! The flipping pissed people off to a point that the target was immediately on you since people wanted revenge, even if it wasn't, maybe, the most logical move.
Erinn Lobdell
Pre-Jury: Carter Williams. Cause you were quiet but a challenge beast. You weren't going anywhere but you were a huge asset and all-around social. There was no reason to not let you go further. Jury: Jeremy Collins.You were the target of a power shift. You were targeted because of idol paranoia but also overall social skill and challenge ability. Could've been someone else, in theory, but you were the most ideal target.
Marcus Lehman
Pre-Jury: Jean-Robert. You had votes thrown at you at a few pre-merge TCs and were a possible target a lot of the time. You always managed to get through, though. Merge: LJ. You were backstabbed by people you thought you trusted for being a social threat and for being an overwhelming and unpredictable force in this game. You were pretty solid for the merge votes you were present for, though.
Spencer Bledsoe
Pre-Jury: Erik R (Micro) cause you were straight up solid. You weren't really in danger often and you were well-liked. Go you! Jury: Jon Misch. You made moves that sketched people out. You took a lot of shit for them, publicly and privately, and, like Jon and it ended up costing you the game.
Crystal Cox
Pre-Jury: Aras (Panama) cause you played a killer game pre-merge but it wasn't very lowkey like some of the other jurors. People knew you were a threat from early on (because of your presence and outspokenness) and that put a massive target on your back come the merge. Jury: Andrea (either time). You were a huge force that helped take out big targets, but eventually you had to go, because you were by far the biggest threat remaining.
Sierra Dawn Thomas Pre-Jury Tyson (either season). You were a definite presence pre-merge. Nobody saw you as a wallflower, you were making yourself known as both a challenge threat and a social player. Jury: Jefra Bland: Cause you were sweet up front but cutthroat behind people's backs. You also showed surprising strength in challenges. Constant flipping ended up putting you in a bad position, ultimately.
Dolly Neely
Pre-Jury J.T. (Tocantins). Because you had your core alliance, who loved you and wanted you around, but you also had people who were loyal to you elsewhere, just in case your alliance didn't work out. Jury: Natalie Bolton. Cause you ~slayed. You played a great manipulative game and did what you had to do when you had to do it in order to survive. You also, unlike Natalie, won key immunities. You were just on top your shit, tbh. But, like Natalie, you came up just short.
Jaclyn Schultz Pre-Jury: Woo. You played a solid, under the radar pre-merge but found yourself in serious danger at the end of it. Luckily, you merged at the perfect time. Jury: Erinn. You flew with the hot boy (me) and the fucking nerd (Adam) to the end but ended up getting fucked over by a F2 deal. You were still robbed of your rightful seat at FTC, though, had the game been an f3.
Adam Gentry
Pre-JuryPhillip (RI). You were loud and a major character in chats. Some people liked you and some people didn't. You were targeted at a vote, but you dodged it thanks to a loyal alliance JuryAmanda Kimmel (Micronesia). You were in a shitty spot a few times and dodged that. You played an idol successfully. However, jury management and jury perception caught up to you at FTC (hopefully)
Silas Gaither Pre-Jury: Aras (Panama). I had an alliance that I liked and trusted (and that was probably more tolerable than Casaya...). I never really felt in danger cause I trusted them and they trusted me. I got lucky with a swap, as well. Jury: Vecepia. I played under the radar and was never perceived as a huge threat. I knew when I didn't have the numbers and I flipped accordingly. I was friendly enough with people on both sides of the game to ensure I was never in a bad position. I wasn't overt in my move-making but that doesn't mean I wasn't doing it. I made it to the end on my own virtues and tried to play as clean of a game as possible.
Need sleep! I'll try and do Crystal and Chelsea tomorrow between essays. Thanks for understanding <3
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